What was the purpose in that? -- CS
And the purpose in this? [largest animal slaughter in the world, Nepal 2014]
Fantastic (and comprehensive!) post, DoT.
the following article will address these questions, and attempt to answer them.. after helping jwfacts with his page on animal suffering, i decided to write this article.. it is mainly aimed at helping jehovahs witnesses and other believers in god to think about the issue, as well as the apparent contradictions in watchtower teaching.. thanks must go to jwfacts for the encouragement, and giving me permission to use an image from his page and to use some of the quotes.. also, thankyou to cofty for general moral support.. please let me know what you think everybody, and feel free to reproduce any part or all of the article on any other website, just post and let me know that you've used it on your site please.. (i'd appreciate it if anyone could post to tell me they found a point in here useful, it would encourage me to keep going).. okay, here it is:.
why does god allow animal suffering?.
does it trouble you to see animals in pain?.
What was the purpose in that? -- CS
And the purpose in this? [largest animal slaughter in the world, Nepal 2014]
Fantastic (and comprehensive!) post, DoT.
my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
They have teamed up with a firm that has specialized in child abuse cases for the expertise in handling the emotions that would come up with clients in dealing with this. -- RICHARD OLIVER
It does really seem that way.
Some of the wording in the ad in spot-on:
It's not too late to receive help and seek accountability for those responsible. This is not something to be handled privately by the Watchtower!
Also the website:
Allegedly, more than 25 years ago, the Jehovah’s Witness’ Governing Body, the group of men who make and approve all policies, sent a memo to the elders of all 14,000 congregations stating that child sex abuse is a private matter and shouldn’t be discussed with anyone, especially the police. The memo also stated that revealing child sex abuse to law enforcement would result in punishment.
It is believed that elders were instead instructed to fill out a form when abuse occurred. These forms were then scanned into a database. This leads investigators to believe that there are thousands of hidden records of sexual abuse within the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
This isn't some cookie-cutter operation. They've obviously done their homework.
ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.
if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.
however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.
maybe the law firm placing that advert is in fact owned by someone connected to the watchtower ? smart move if it is -- STAN
Almost certainly not. These guys are bloodsuckers and they must see WT as ripe for harvest. I just hope they do right by the victims.
my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
It is exciting news, but I think it is wise to double check the reputations of the law firms involved before getting too carried away. There are a few comments on the reddit forum that have chastened my enthusiasm a little. -- COBWEB
I agree 100%.
When I've heard Rick Simons or Irwin Zalkin talk about their cases, they really do seem intent not only on righting an injustice with regards to their respective clients, but they also talk about effecting change on WT's child abuse policy.
When I heard Weitz & Luxenberg was the source of these ads, the first words that popped into my mind were "ambulance chasers," "slip-and-fall" and "sharks."
That being said, I personally don't care what their intentions are, as long as they sue the shit out of WT and get their clients what they deserve. WT hasn't been open to learning any lessons anyway.
my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
Would you mind taking a good photo of the whole page where the add appeared. It could be used to prove its source undoubtedly to non-US ones.
my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
I'd hate to be living in Warwick right now. -- CTRWTF
Yes, and this is "in their own back yard" so to speak.
For anyone who has lived in Bethel's physical reach (a "Bethel" congregation in the NYC metro area), when lawsuits happen in California, they may as well be happening in Timbuktu. No one really takes it seriously around here.
The saying goes something like "The further away from Bethel, the further away from Bethel."
This hits REALLY close to home.
Check out DUNEDAIN's post about the TV commercial too:
my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
I am thinking now, that this might be regional thing, and maybe it wasn't a national commercial he saw, since the add your wife saw, was in the NJ paper. -- DUNEDAIN
That's what it looks like! I should check out "E!"
This is crazy huge.
The lawyers are smelling the blood in the water... the feeding frenzy is about to begin. -- BURNEDOUT
I said this exact thing to my wife when she called me with this.
ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.
if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.
however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.
Did not see that but did see this:
Something is definitely up. . . .
my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.
pretty telling.. .
My wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's NJ Star-Ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in NJ. Pretty telling.
"traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .
.. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .
from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.
Personally, there are a lot of rules in the Bible I don't subscribe to.
I've heard they are attracted to paper and glue. People can't let anything moist around. You are supposed to dry your sinks. If this new powder works the way boric acid does, you see them losing ground and falling to the ground. One week showed incredible results.
Adopt the attitude that you will eradicate them. Trust fund kids seem to enjoy them. Not me!
-BoCotR